tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post8561904044647147781..comments2023-09-03T08:06:27.231-04:00Comments on Nikki Stafford's Lost Rewatch!: 2.07 The Other 48 DaysNikki Staffordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-65602214445288330482011-07-05T21:34:52.684-04:002011-07-05T21:34:52.684-04:00The Tailies had children; there were no children o...<i>The Tailies had children; there were no children on the other beach.</i><br /><br /><br />My God! Have you forgotten Walt Lloyd?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-65584112880628059922010-11-24T01:34:54.624-05:002010-11-24T01:34:54.624-05:00But Kate has never been injured (seriously) on the...<i>But Kate has never been injured (seriously) on the Island. And of everybody, she's the one who got her life the most together, being a great mother to Aaron and ditching Jack when he went off the deep end again.</i><br /><br /><br />Kate got her life together by pretending to be the mother of a baby that wasn't hers . . . and keeping said baby from his true family?<br /><br />Why do fans keep pretending that Kate did nothing wrong by keeping Aaron for herself? By doing this, they are robbing Kate of her moment when she finally realized that raising Aaron was the wrong thing to do.RosiePhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11217705824689269830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-64775544292977563612010-11-01T23:56:43.620-04:002010-11-01T23:56:43.620-04:00I know that many people find this hard to believe,...I know that many people find this hard to believe, but I don't think that Ana-Lucia was solely responsible for Nathan's death. Just about all of them were . . . including Nathan.<br /><br />His secretive and abrasive behavior rubbed Ana-Lucia, Cindy and Libby the wrong way. Which would explain why all three of them were suspicious of him.<br /><br />I suspect that Eko was also suspicious of Nathan. He was willing to give the Canadian a banana, but he was not willing to help Nathan out of the pit. And since he wasn't scared of Ana, I can only guess that he had his own suspicions.<br /><br />Bernard never really did anything to help Nathan. He protested lightly about Nathan being dumped into the pit . . . but he didn't do anything.<br /><br />But the one person I hold truly responsible for Nathan's death was Goodwin. Killing Nathan was unnecessary, as far as I am concerned. All he had to do was let Nathan go. The latter would have taken pains to stay out of Ana-Lucia's path.The Rush Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13667282586023023623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-9904775545367328422009-08-30T20:18:35.817-04:002009-08-30T20:18:35.817-04:00Funny Ben line, Nikki.
This is a favorite episod...Funny Ben line, Nikki. <br /><br />This is a favorite episode of mine. I love that there's no "Previously on Lost" at the beginning. It's like a brand new show, and until the last ten minutes you don't need to know anything from the past.<br /><br />Backtracking a bit to when the second season was first airing: when my wife (who was then my girlfriend) and her roommate first saw the tailies, they figured Eko was Rose's husband. "Dude, Rose's husband is hot!" Then when Bernard (who seems to me more Rose's type) was revealed to be her husband, my girlfriend exclaimed, "We're such racist fools!"<br /><br />Flashforward to this past week, as we're watching this episode and we know so much more about Mr. "beat you with his Jesus stick" Eko, perhaps the last man Rose would ever marry:<br /><br />Me: So, you thought that was Rose's husband, huh?<br /><br />Wife: "I've already admitted I was a racist fool, okay?"<br /><br />Actually, with regard to the identity of Rose's husband, I think the writers intended to trick some of the fans. I think Hurley has a comment later on about the issue.J.W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02055347345434106368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-18327637128086207242009-08-30T01:12:28.127-04:002009-08-30T01:12:28.127-04:00@ Sonshine: "hmmmmmmm..... maybe she doesn...@ Sonshine: "hmmmmmmm..... maybe she doesn't believe so much that the Island ignores her.<br />Does that even make any sense?"<br /><br />Nothing makes any sense to me anymore! I just want Lost to start and to tell me what to do! Hahah!<br /><br />Do remember that episode of the Simpsons? <b>Gabo is coming!</b><br /><br /><i> "He'll tell us what to do!"</i><br /><br />That is how I feel :(Joan Crawfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04513335615114222374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-38692631763417465202009-08-30T00:55:56.084-04:002009-08-30T00:55:56.084-04:00But Kate has never been injured (seriously) on the...But Kate has never been injured (seriously) on the Island. And of everybody, she's the one who got her life the most together, being a great mother to Aaron and ditching Jack when he went off the deep end again.<br /><br />hmmmmmmm..... maybe she doesn't believe so much that the Island ignores her.<br /><br />Does that even make any sense?<br /><br />And Joan - the sound of one hand clapping is the the sound of silence :PRebecca T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11994380364321336824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-75572559546370272572009-08-29T22:34:43.421-04:002009-08-29T22:34:43.421-04:00Maybe people who "believe" get helped on...Maybe people who "believe" get helped on the island. Like Rose and John but people who don't like Jack (appendix) and Sawyer (eyes) don't? Maybe Ben got sick because he began to doubt? Maybe Kate is too flawed because she doesn't believe in anything? What is the sound of one hand clapping? This stuff is over my head.Joan Crawfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04513335615114222374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-49168031186825992682009-08-29T19:50:34.938-04:002009-08-29T19:50:34.938-04:00I think Rose's faith has a lot to do with her ...I think Rose's faith has a lot to do with her realization that she has been cured on the island. what wouldn't you believe after that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-27055059384904664482009-08-29T11:14:49.899-04:002009-08-29T11:14:49.899-04:001. Nathan also said the reason no one remembered h...1. Nathan also said the reason no one remembered him from the plane was because he was in the bathroom. He must have major digestive issues.<br /><br />2. I figure Bernard did like Charlie did, when the plane started to shake he got out of the bathroom and strapped himself into the nearest seat. What I can't figure out is how his seat ended up in the jungle when the tail section approached from the water.Susannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-16309470350202672812009-08-29T06:59:55.144-04:002009-08-29T06:59:55.144-04:00Hmmm...add two more mysteries to the pile of those...Hmmm...add two more mysteries to the pile of those that will never be solved.<br /><br />1. Where WAS Nathan for two hours when he said he was going to the bathroom? (Did he take a newspaper and make a day of it?)<br /><br />2. And on that same subject, how did Bernard, who was in the lavatory at the time of the crash, end up strapped to a seat in the tail section?<br /><br />I've tried to accept "deflated ghost chicken" as the answer for both of these, but it's just not working for me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-19221281316260899002009-08-29T00:05:47.095-04:002009-08-29T00:05:47.095-04:00@Nikki & Question Mark: The two of you get all...@Nikki & Question Mark: The two of you get all the credit for "Deflated Ghost Chicken", QM for planting the seed of the idea, and Nikki for running with it and coining our new favorite phrase. And, QM, I love your suggestion that it should be the codeword for the season 6 finale. I hope that Darlton will open it up to the fans next year. If DGC wins, you guys should definitely split the prize. Unless it's a T-shirt or something, in which case I don't know WHAT you'll do. (Hmmm...wouldn't Deflated Ghost Chicken be a terrific name for a Lost blog? Or a heavy metal band?)Marebabenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-8469046556845883632009-08-28T22:34:33.777-04:002009-08-28T22:34:33.777-04:00When in doubt, the answer is always Deflated Ghost...<i>When in doubt, the answer is always Deflated Ghost Chicken.</i> <br /><br />Ah hahahahahahahahahaha! I think that is the best line EVER on this blog. And I totally buy the theory!Rebecca T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11994380364321336824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-86823859958079140372009-08-28T22:02:47.872-04:002009-08-28T22:02:47.872-04:00Having a bad day. Of course Oceanic 815 came down...Having a bad day. Of course Oceanic 815 came down at the same time Desmond accidently killed "snowman" Kelvin as he tried to run off with "Elizabeth" and inadvertenly let the timer run down to show all those apocalyptic Dharma hieroglyphs (not the turning of the failsafe key as I misstated above).variabullnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-56667841272696724962009-08-28T17:43:56.292-04:002009-08-28T17:43:56.292-04:00@Susan
Ajira 316 (Boeing 737) overshoots the runw...@Susan<br /><br />Ajira 316 (Boeing 737) overshoots the runway in 2007, a runway Kate and Sawyer were still constructing after the crash of Oceanic 815 (Boeing 777 needs more landing runway length than 737). If the pilot was going to put it down on the Mesa or in the Ocean that would still be a crash landing. Of course Jack, Kate and Hurley were "spirited" off 316 by some unknown means which could have been the intended means of removal of those on 815 (and may have been Jack's exit).<br /><br />There seem to be several theories floating around as to why Oceanic 815 came down, one of which is Desmond's turning of the failsafe key and electromagnetism. However the writer's seemed to haved called this into question with Sayid's statement about the airliner titanium he is poking around the "Cherynobl" concrete being fairly unaffected by the electromagnetism. Lostpedia has the ferrous content of a 777 listed at about 10% for what that's worth. The EM could have knocked out the fly-by-wire controls but 815's engines continued to operate.<br /><br />Other theories include the smoke monster, and explosive decompression after the cargo door is opened. I always thought the scenes over the Barracks show Oceanic 815 being cut up in 3 dimensions, the fuselage and tail (1), one engine and the landing gear (2), and one wing (3), kind of like a "magic box" cut the airliner up in mid-air. <br /><br />There seem to be discrepencies between what we see over the Barracks (5000' altitude, one engine and a wing drop off) while in the Pilot Part 1 both engines and both wings made it to the beach.<br /><br />Ajira 316 is an intermediate range 737 that never would be used to get from LA to Guam (6000 miles).<br /><br />Wouldn't Oceanic 815 have to be flying on a line North/South 305/125 (remind anyone of a line North/South 337/157 trying to find Howland Island circa 1937) to enter Island airspace. Wouldn't this be terribly unlikely in lieu of the pilot's story unless the story was a lie and getting to the Island was intentional?<br /><br />Then there is Hawking's statement implying she knew how everything was going to happen up until the point of Desmond's being shot.variabullnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-62260728156666485122009-08-28T16:57:18.099-04:002009-08-28T16:57:18.099-04:00I really liked this episode it felt like the begin...I really liked this episode it felt like the beginning all over again only more apocalyptic and horrifying. There was no last time on LOST it was like starting with a clean slate. <br /><br />When Echo leaves the kids saying there is something he must do and then goes back into the water I though the first time watching it that he was looking for someone in particular, a friend or family member who was on the plane with him, which would have been really sad.<br /><br />Libby says the same exact thing to the guy with the broken leg that she says to Sawyer about his shoulder: Its not that bad, your gonna be fine, and she even says it with a semi-convincing smile both times. Then they guy dies and I wondered if we were meant to think from that that Sawyer was gonna die. <br /><br />I really wondered why Anna Lucia targeted Nathan. She didn't really have any convincing reasons and I though perhaps it had to do with her past and what seems like a hatred of men, esp ones that do not respect her authority, stemming from Jason. So many people seem to hate Anna Lucia but I felt sad for her. She seems a lot less hard and scarily controlling after they first land and as more and more people are killed and kidnapped she gets harder and harder until the kids are taken and she is pushed over the edge. It's as if PTSD from her experiences with Jason kicks into high gear and she can no longer thing rationally at all. And then she kills Shannon, accidentally, and whats left of her people abandon her. I though she was even more scared and alone than Sawyer and I really wanted to just give them both a big ol' hug, not that they would have let me.<br /><br />I kept thinking about Juliet and I wondered if Goodwin was really a villain. This time around he was just Juliet's love interest and when he died I felt sad for her. <br /><br />The box of stuff they find in the arrow station struck me as a very strange mix. It seemed like we were supposed to get the impression that the stuff was just left there unsuspectingly by whatever Dharma or Other used it last. But the mix of things this time around seemed staged like it was placed there specifically for the tailies to find but for what purpose and by whom I don't know. The bible that is in there is the one that has the missing pieces of the swan orientation video in it I think. I had this feeling rewatching them find the stuff that it was like a pro in a game put there to propel them forward.<br /><br />Lastly the scene at the end where the tailies find Jin, I could not help but thing how scary it must have been to look up and see Echo as his captor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-5956521173567823922009-08-28T15:28:28.281-04:002009-08-28T15:28:28.281-04:00This is probably one of my favorite Lost episodes,...This is probably one of my favorite Lost episodes, despite the fact that most of the Tailies are dead now. <br /><br />It's just intense and riveting, and the parallels and divergences between this group and the Losties on the beach are fascinating. <br /><br />You might even say the Tailies are, metaphorically, alternate versions of Jack and company: what if the plane landed on THAT side of the island, in the water, without all the resources? An early nod to season six alternate realities, perhaps? <br /><br />I really, really hope the Cindy/Libby/Other questions are addressed, if not outright answered, next season. <br /><br />"Defalted Ghost Chicken"? <br /><br />...<br /><br />Bravo. Bravo. :)Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-61308843310319185342009-08-28T14:13:55.580-04:002009-08-28T14:13:55.580-04:00I still can't help but think that Cindy is an ...I still can't help but think that Cindy is an Other, and was some sort of plant. I mean, she goes with the Others and is totally fine when we see her next, not a problem at all. She was also quick to say that she hadn't seen Nathan on the plane. Maybe she was put on the plan through some sort of alternate timeline, where they knew that the plane would crash, who knows. I just can't shake the feeling that there's more to Cindy.Ashlie Hawkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04819825642101427700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-44308405868564554442009-08-28T14:08:56.816-04:002009-08-28T14:08:56.816-04:00Interesting theories about Libby as an other, I ha...Interesting theories about Libby as an other, I hadn't thought of that before. <br />Another interesting Libby-point is that there are a lot of deleted scenes from series 2 involving her, it almost seems like they were going to make her into a regular character but then changed their minds.EvaHartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-80866886479625146602009-08-28T13:25:10.735-04:002009-08-28T13:25:10.735-04:00@Jenn - Good idea about Anna/Ilana thing - I hope ...@Jenn - Good idea about Anna/Ilana thing - I hope that is true! They are way too similar to both exist on Lost and be separate people. <br /><br /><b>Deflated Ghost Chicken</b> - Hahaah! This is the only show where that could possibly make any sense at all.Joan Crawfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04513335615114222374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-47976418223843940052009-08-28T12:55:45.513-04:002009-08-28T12:55:45.513-04:00@Nikki: I've read that Naveen Andrews is a ver...@Nikki: I've read that Naveen Andrews is a very fine guitarist, and I'm sure his longish nails help. I remember when I was studying classical guitar, there was a bit of a conflict, because as a pianist I've always had very short nails. But to play classical guitar well, you need slightly longer nails to act as picks.Marebabenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-91999352250429085832009-08-28T11:18:03.659-04:002009-08-28T11:18:03.659-04:00Variabull, I don't know who brought 815 to the...Variabull, I don't know who brought 815 to the island (Others, Dharma, Jacob), but I don't believe they meant it to crash. That was caused by Desmond. Notice how relatively safely 316 lands on the island.Susannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-51094328742751112322009-08-28T10:31:30.142-04:002009-08-28T10:31:30.142-04:00DEFLATED GHOST CHICKEN has got my vote!
In fact, ...DEFLATED GHOST CHICKEN has got my vote!<br /><br />In fact, that should be the codeword for the Season 6 finale. Frozen Donkey Wheel is so 2007!The Question Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-28258361747559543372009-08-28T10:09:24.424-04:002009-08-28T10:09:24.424-04:00Brain fart
That would be theater seating for Room...Brain fart<br /><br />That would be theater seating for Room 23 and GOODWIN instead of NATHAN.variabullnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-64322700205181484242009-08-28T09:56:24.135-04:002009-08-28T09:56:24.135-04:00Re: Chicken. I HAVE THE ANSWER.
On the island, t...Re: Chicken. I HAVE THE ANSWER. <br /><br />On the island, the ghosts of crimes past always appear to people -- Yemi to Eko, the black horse to Kate. So this chicken? It's the one that Sayid killed. OH YES. It's the one whose neck he snapped, and then it deflated, and now it's back for vengeance. When everyone ate Sayid's ghost chicken, they became marked in a way, and then AL, without even knowing it, killed Sayid's love because she had the ghost chicken inside her telling her to do it out of revenge. <br /><br />That is TOTALLY the answer. When in doubt, the answer is always Deflated Ghost Chicken.Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-39199269006043084942009-08-28T09:53:57.259-04:002009-08-28T09:53:57.259-04:00Question Mark: She could be like that butcher woma...Question Mark: <i>She could be like that butcher woman Jill, spening most of her time off-Island doing recon for Ben/Jacob. She is responsible for Des coming to the Island, after all, and she's got connections. Could she perhaps be a super-secret Other mole? </i> <br /><br />I agree. I've thought that from the beginning, and said so in my book. She was the one who got Desmond to the island. In the airport, Eko was face to face with the "living dead girl" and he was about to change his mind about getting on the plane when Libby walked over to him and said, "Is everything OK?" and he got on the plane. AND she was in Hurley's mental hospital, as if she was keeping dibs on him. And then she appeared to Michael off-island and reminded him of what he'd done, which added to the guilt that brought him back to the island again.Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.com