tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post857113330871311155..comments2023-09-03T08:06:27.231-04:00Comments on Nikki Stafford's Lost Rewatch!: 2.09 What Kate DidNikki Staffordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-60040604129479627832011-12-12T18:26:27.045-05:002011-12-12T18:26:27.045-05:00How can Diane give up her daughter? Not in the sen...<i>How can Diane give up her daughter? Not in the sense of, how can she DO that? but in the sense of, she wasn't a witness and Kate never comes straight out and says she did it, so all she has are suspicions. Was there other evidence that directly tied Kate to Wayne's death? Or is it all circumstantial? Would that have been enough? Might Kate have been fine if she just hadn't run.</i><br /><br /><br />Let's see. Kate murdered her husband in cold blood. Used her as a part of an insurance scam, so that Kate could pretend that Wayne's death was an accident. While "apologizing" for Wayne's death, lied about the real reason she murdered him in the first place. And then got pissed off when said mother didn't buy her lie.<br /><br />Yeah . . . I can see why Diane pushed Kate away.The Rush Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13667282586023023623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-61815615207209621472010-11-02T00:03:35.030-04:002010-11-02T00:03:35.030-04:00Katey . . .
Kate Austen was never sexually abused...Katey . . .<br /><br />Kate Austen was never sexually abused by her father. She even admitted in her little soliloquy in this episode. I realize that many people want to justify her murder of Wayne. But she doesn't have a reason.The Rush Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13667282586023023623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-2921830608698554902010-11-02T00:01:32.332-04:002010-11-02T00:01:32.332-04:00I just want to point something out. I don't h...I just want to point something out. I don't hate Kate anymore. I stopped hating her when she finally admitted to Claire that it was wrong of her to claim Aaron as her son.<br /><br />But I have to point something out. I don't blame Diane Austen for calling the police on Kate. Kate had WRONGED her . . . terribly. Yes, Wayne was an abusive husband. But Diane loved him, for better or worse. Kate HAD NO RIGHT killing him. Kate didn't kill Wayne to protect her mother. She killed him, due to her own insecurities when she found out that he was her real father.<br /><br />Kate had wronged Diane badly. And I think that what happened to her and Jack in the end, was cosmic payback for killing her father and not realizing that she was wrong to do so.The Rush Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13667282586023023623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-20829382044066750392009-09-03T17:32:06.166-04:002009-09-03T17:32:06.166-04:00@Katey sez:
Like the ideas we passed around in &q...@Katey sez:<br /><br />Like the ideas we passed around in "Numbers" of how maybe it was Hurley himself setting the radio tower transmission in order to set all these events in motion.<br /><br />Okay, I've been rolling with the idea of the "future" Losties attempting to change the past via the film splice, the transmission, etc. Buuuuut...if it were possible for them to do so, why engage in all that subtlety? Why not leave a giant, explanatory note on the Dharma film...broadcast a transmission that explains the whole situation...call everyone and tell them not to get on the plane...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-59260822195073822862009-09-03T17:25:53.743-04:002009-09-03T17:25:53.743-04:00Perhaps Sayid's appearance in the recruitment ...Perhaps Sayid's appearance in the recruitment film serves as an example of "the enemy."<br /><br />Question Mark: I like your theory about the spliced film. There seems to be no logical reason for any of the "Dharma" people to have spliced it. And what a lot of trouble to carve out the pages of a book in order to hide the film. As an altered book artist, I can tell you it takes a *lot* of time and patience (and not more than a little muscle!) to carved out a niche that large and deep in a book. Apparently the splicer wanted that film kept out of harm's way and well-preserved. But for what purpose?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-65241353770151774212009-09-03T17:00:30.509-04:002009-09-03T17:00:30.509-04:00@Soshinemusic:
That's very interesting about t...<b>@Soshinemusic:</b><br />That's very interesting about the children's book "What Katy Did"! That's the most fascinating thing to me about Kate--and all of the characters who end up being my favorite--the duality of their personalities in the "good/evil" cycle. It's one of those philosophical things that's just so unexplainable, because--there's no doubt that Kate cares for people, loves deeply and truly, is not a psychopath or a heartless killer bent only on destruction, but do any of these things surpass her crimes to make her "good" despite the actions she takes? Is it enough to <i>want</i> to make the right choices and be good badly enough even if instinct inevitably brings us away from that? Is it enough to do bad things for reasons that are truly meant for good in one's heart? Is actually more honorable to take on sin for the sake of someone else (like Eko killing the old man in the stead of his brother)? It's an unknowable! Gahh, it gives me goosebumps. That is one of the singularly most fascinating subjects to me, in anything, I love studying the duality of human personality. Kate is such a perfect study subject too. So complex, and yet simultaneously simple and innocent and instinctual.<br /><br /><b>@variabull:</b><br />Interesting comparison with the story of Josiah burning the pagan priests and the Others. I've had that whole "burning bodies" thing on my list of clues to research for a while now. It somehow seems connected in my mind to the ring of ash around Jacob's cabin, but, maybe not.<br /><br /><b>@The Question Mark:</b><br />I don't no exactly how the sequence of events is going to go down, but I definitely think you're right in the idea that many of the things we've seen so far will be discovered as things set in motion by the Losties themselves--that's a theory I've had for a while too. Like the ideas we passed around in "Numbers" of how maybe it was Hurley himself setting the radio tower transmission in order to set all these events in motion. It seems to me though, that there can't really be any <i>one</i> particular point where everything began. In away, every single action that anyone takes is the beginning point and the ending point of the cycle--it's all one giant loop and ever choice and action simply reestablishes it. I'm really excited to see exactly who's behind the splicing--I really like your idea that it's Locke! Or would that be Fake-Locke? I guess we'll see! :D<br /><br /><br /><b>@the book of law</b><br />My cousin and I noticed that when we were watching the Richard test thingy and since then, we've been wondering--who has the Book of Laws? Lots of people mention the "rules" and it always seems so elusive and yet somehow, everyone knows what these "rules" are. Like Ben saying the Widmore "changed the rules" by having Alex killed and Richard is always talking about the rules--especially in the finale where Fake-Locke/Flocke says "I get the feeling you just make these rules up as you go along." It feels to me like that Book of Rules and the things it contains is what everything is all about--in there are the rules to this two-sided "game" and perhaps, just exactly how that game is played. I suppose Richard keeps the book...or maybe it has a special place in the temple? Hm.<br /><br /><b>@peacockblue:</b><br />Yeah--that puzzled me too: the fact that the horse really wasn't a key figure in her life. Sure, it inadvertently saved her (unless somehow it was Jacob/AJ intervening and we just don't know it yet) but...that was hardly the turning point in her story. Hm, well, it probably is too much to hope for as an answer in Season Six, but--I'm going to hope anyway. Ya' never know!<br /><br />And thanks--I <i>definitely</i> don't take it as in an insult! That kinda made my day actually...week maybe! =P My birthday is still a month and a half away actually--mid October (best month ever!) but thank you for the well wishes! :D I'm still 17--honestly, unlike most kids, I'm not that eager to grow up. I wouldn't mind coasting for a while in the teens if only I could. Alas, time moves on. We've just got to make due. :)Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09501756460059866798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-36342503545637555542009-09-03T16:31:32.490-04:002009-09-03T16:31:32.490-04:00One of the things I've always liked about this...One of the things I've always liked about this episode is the way that it answers the central question (what Kate did) in the teaser. <br /><br />It's the kind of revelation that, normally, would have been built up throughout the episode and then revealed in the last few seconds, but the producers decided to flip that on its ear and answer the question right away, and then focus on the ramifications of it. It's a change I always find refreshing. <br /><br />Re-watching this episode, I was under the assumption that Radzinsky spliced the film, but now I'm left wondering where I got that idea. Was it from Darlton in a Podcast? A later episode? Am I just making stuff up now? <br /><br />I also love Sayid on the TV behind Sam Austen, but I've always been curious WHY he's on that TV. Sam is working as an army recruiter, but the kinds of things the army recruited Sayid to do wouldn't show up in any recruitment film. It must just be intended as a neat Easter egg in the scene.Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-60854622475896407722009-09-03T16:25:42.028-04:002009-09-03T16:25:42.028-04:00Next to Left Behind this is one of my favorite Kat...Next to Left Behind this is one of my favorite Kate flashbacks. I wish we'd seen more of this part of her past in s1 instead of her robbing banks to steal toy airplanes. I love that Darlton made her anything BUT an innocent woman who'd been wrongfully accused. Nope, not only did she do it, but she did with <b>no remorse.</b> Awesome.Seabiscuitnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-37095574434656024372009-09-03T13:06:15.867-04:002009-09-03T13:06:15.867-04:00Just to point this out, the "Book of Law"...Just to point this out, the "Book of Law" in question, in the story of Josiah, would be the Torah (i.e. the first five books of the Old Testament), and specifically the Mosaic law found in the books of Deuteronomy and Leviticus. It may have connections to the "Book of Law" from Lost, but it's not the "very same book" that Richard Alpert has later. It is, in fact, a part of the Bible that Eko is about to hand to Locke.Captain Peabodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15649162745798097841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-89360012648565760692009-09-03T12:45:02.702-04:002009-09-03T12:45:02.702-04:00Isn't it the compass Locke was 'meant'...Isn't it the compass Locke was 'meant' to choose?<br /><br />Eko is a great character and it's great to see how he could've been a major character on the show. Shame he didn't [strangely] like Hawaii?<br /><br />In real life he has an accent like Naveen :) Cockney!!!Azáhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04177781964280938606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-63794308215720772562009-09-03T12:25:00.067-04:002009-09-03T12:25:00.067-04:00Sonshine Music re the rotation for hatch duty:
I ...Sonshine Music re the rotation for hatch duty:<br /><br />I have wondered about that too. I guess you could say that with so many people available, we just happen to see only a few doing the job. What I like to think, though, is that many of the beach people said "no thanks" when offered the job. This would help explain the lack of curiosity later on when John has Ben prisoner in the hatch and few people are allowed to know he is there.Susannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-75712816102238067332009-09-03T11:45:15.254-04:002009-09-03T11:45:15.254-04:00Thanks Susan. I think I do remember that.
Katey,...Thanks Susan. I think I do remember that. <br /><br />Katey, Wayne/Sawyer, eh? Weird. I’d like an explanation in S6, but it seems too insignificant to bother with . But why would Kate see a horse and not Wayne? I thought her seeing the horse was almost as weird. It caused a crash that freed her, but really wasn’t that important in her life. <br /><br />And Katey, its not just that you can write in complete sentences and use full words, you’re very articulate and obviously intelligent. You do restore my faith in the education system. I hope you’re not insulted being assumed to be older! I think at 18 I considered it a compliment, which this is. (Its somewhat less of a compliment now at 47!) Have a Happy Birthday!peacockbluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08889498177962281400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-63920685174514395852009-09-03T11:21:35.214-04:002009-09-03T11:21:35.214-04:00My theory on the film splice issue:
(IF YOU HAVEN...My theory on the film splice issue:<br /><br />(IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THE COMIC-CON VIDEOS FOR SEASON 6 AND DON'T WISH TO KNOW THEIR CONTENTS, DON'T READ AHEAD)<br /><br />So, the videos played at Comic-Con, as well as the poster displayed there for Losr 2010, all made it quite clear that the timeline of the show is gonna be shaken up a bit, thanks to Jack's actions with the bomb.<br />In my opinion, this change is going to turn out to do much more harm than good, and I think the season will revolve around the Losties themselves trying to pull a major course-correction.<br /><br />Michael used the Hatch's computer for "something other than its intended purpose" by talking to Walt, which led to him going after the Others, which eventually led to jack, kate & Sawyer's capture and everything else that followed. Basically, Michael was the gunshot that started that whole race.<br /><br />So, if the Losties need to course-correct their actions at the incident, perhaps somehow (and I've got no clue how it would get to this point, I'm just speculating-LOL) Locke realizes that in order for things to happen they way the should, Michael must talk to walt on the computer. So Locke himself splices out that section of film so that Michael could never watch it.<br />If he doesn't watch it, he doesn't know Dharma's rules, starts messing around with the computer, and Bingo! Instant messaging with Walt!<br /><br />This is just my crazy, wacky theory. I'm thinking of Marty McFly, who is trying to undo his own mistakes and getting his parents to fall in love all over again; basically, the Losties have made their bed and now they've gotta weasel out of it.<br /><br />Agree? Disagree? Think I'm nuts? Me too :)The Question Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-48284839099368934452009-09-03T10:27:07.779-04:002009-09-03T10:27:07.779-04:00I completely forgot about this...
There is a chil...I completely forgot about this...<br /><br />There is a children's book that was written back in 1872 called "What Katy Did". I read it ages ago, but I thought of it when I heard this episode title.<br /><br />I looked up the plot on Wikipedia to refresh my memory, but the basic story line is a young girl named Katy who is a tomboy, very impulsive and mischievous. She dreams of being important and going on grand adventures and of being truly good.<br /><br />Then, in an accident, she is injured and becomes bed ridden for years during which time she must learn to be patient and kind.<br /><br />I just thought there were some interesting parallels between that story and Kate's here.<br /><br />I think the biggest thing that stood out to me is Katy's desire to be good and important and how that seems to be one of Kate's greatest desires. When she tells Jack she's not good like he is there's a desperation in her voice that she wishes she could be good.<br /><br />It isn't until after a tragic accident (well, several of them, but I'm thinking specifically the plane crash) that she is finally able to work through a lot of her problems and by S5 she has become one of the most stable of the lot - being a good mother to Aaron, being a voice of reason back on the Island. Her trials have helped to redeem her and it will be interesting to see the direction she goes in S6.Rebecca T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11994380364321336824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-89516892247700454952009-09-03T10:23:33.976-04:002009-09-03T10:23:33.976-04:00Came across this in wikipedia. Josiah tried to re...Came across this in wikipedia. Josiah tried to reestablish the exclusive worship of Yahweh by outlawing all other forms of worship. He had the bones of dead pagan priests exhumed from their graves and burned on their altars. Remind you of the Others?variabullnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-22462640917607369722009-09-03T10:03:36.064-04:002009-09-03T10:03:36.064-04:00A few more thoughts..... (I decided to break it up...A few more thoughts..... (I decided to break it up a little so as not to have a monstrous post)<br /><br />I LOVE the look on John's face when he pulls the film out of the Bible and realizes what it is.<br /><br />If everyone is on the roster for rotation in the hatch (like John says) how come we NEVER EVER EVER see anyone else there?<br /><br />I absolutely love Sam Austen and think the part was played well. You can tell he really loved her and just wanted to protect her.<br /><br />Where does Jack get the little bottles of alcohol - He had to send Kate for them when Boone was dying and she broke most of them when she tripped. Hmmmmm..... Does he have a private stash too?<br /><br />Oh, and something else about the Wayne/Kate thing - if it WAS Wayne saying I love her, then that's really messed up if he did abuse her.<br /><br />I still think Widmore should have shown up on the black horse in S5. THAT would have been funny.<br /><br />@Katey: <i>I was like "I didn't do anything! I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING!! STOP CALLING MY NAME!" >_></i> <br /><br />That seriously made my day. HA!<br /><br />I was disappointed with the film splice too, but if you notice it jumps at other places too. I guess I was more disappointed that they didn't find even more pieces at other stations to fill in the rest of the missing spots.Rebecca T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11994380364321336824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-44716315832458856892009-09-03T09:53:13.388-04:002009-09-03T09:53:13.388-04:00I always love the Kate flashbacks and this one rev...I always love the Kate flashbacks and this one revealed so much about her.<br /><br />I love that opening sequence with Jin, Sun and then Hurley - It always makes me smile.<br /><br />Naveen's performance at the funeral is so heartbreaking.<br /><br />How can Diane give up her daughter? Not in the sense of, how can she DO that? but in the sense of, she wasn't a witness and Kate never comes straight out and says she did it, so all she has are suspicions. Was there other evidence that directly tied Kate to Wayne's death? Or is it all circumstantial? Would that have been enough? Might Kate have been fine if she just hadn't run?<br /><br />Jack got on my nerves again with his attitude toward Kate when she runs away because of her supposed hallucinations. Does he not remember chasing his DEAD FATHER and running off and leaving everyone and everything?<br /><br />The Marshal should have worn his seatbelt. Ha!<br /><br />@Katey: in rewatching this episode I was thinking the same thing about Kate and Wayne. The interchange between them when she helps him into bed is so charged and the way she reacts so violently to the suggestion that he abused her seems to point to the exact opposite. It would also help explain her comment to Tom on the tape in the box, about always wanting to run away.<br /><br />I do love Eko telling the story about Josiah, but, as is true with most of his retellings throughout the series (and the 23rd Psalm as Nikki will mention on the next episode) it is a little bit off. I think they did such a good job of having him know enough without knowing too much. It's like he has the main ideas down, but is obviously not really a priest. Just a nice little detail to help round out his character.Rebecca T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11994380364321336824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-63026874694863948252009-09-03T08:32:23.749-04:002009-09-03T08:32:23.749-04:00I was so mad when Michael used the computer for so...I was so mad when Michael used the computer for something else! I know, I know, he was desperate to get Waaaaaaalt back, but he knew that using the computer to communicate with him could bring serious harm to the rest of Losties—and he doesn't care. I often found Michael selfish, and this is one instance that illustrates this part of him. I think it also shows that when it came to Waaaaaaaalt, Michael rarely thought with a clear sensible head. What if, in using the computer, he had caused an incident that caused himself to die? Or worse yet, Waaaaaaalt to die?<br />Oh Michael! What will we ever do with you? Oh, wait....I guess we don't have to worry about you anymore:(JennMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05754816706901976659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-86961060432717110582009-09-03T01:40:05.565-04:002009-09-03T01:40:05.565-04:00Great post and great comments. Interesting, I alw...Great post and great comments. Interesting, I always thought it was the compass "that belonged" to John and what he supposed to choose. I completely forgot that Eko gave John The Book Of Laws. Now I wonder which one Richard expected/wanted him to choose?<br />Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-71703260327681966082009-09-03T01:28:21.028-04:002009-09-03T01:28:21.028-04:00@Marebabe:
I thought about Sayid's cat thing t...<b>@Marebabe:</b><br />I thought about Sayid's cat thing too! It's definitely fishy...coincidence hardly seems like an adequate explanation for how a jet black, wild HORSE managed to find itself in the jungle on a time-traveling, impossible-to-find island in the middle of the Pacific ocean. The two things definitely seem to have something in common. I wonder if the "Hurley-bird" is actually something from Hurley's past...that would be funny.<br /><br /><b>@peacockblue:</b><br />First off, you made me blush--so nice! I don't deserve all that though, but at least I guess I can restore some faith in the younger generation--we're not all air heads who only speak chat lingo =P. But anyway, I'm totally with you on the Wayne/Sawyer thing. My initial mental reaction was: What. The. Bleep. That whole deal was realllly bizarre even by Lost standards. I mean, at least Jack actually <i>saw</i> his father--weird, but visually reassuring, Eko actually saw Yemi, Shannon actually saw Walt, etc, etc, but Kate gets a random unconscious ghost-inhabitor who somehow takes over her feverish friend and tries to strangle her? How's that work? I hope they shed some light on how exactly and <i>why</i> exactly that all went down...<br /><br /><b>on the "I love her" thingy</b><br />I've been wondering that too recently--seems fishy. I don't see why it would be Wayne, but at the same time...that's pretty much equally random for half-conscious Sawyer to be mumbling, especially since the last time Sawyer saw Kate was him exposing her as a criminal in front of everyone and then saying he <i>wasn't</i> going to apologize and that there was "nothing worth staying for". It's not really till season three that he seems to fall in deep for her...either way, that line just makes no sense to me!Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09501756460059866798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-1224550594609352442009-09-03T01:05:30.023-04:002009-09-03T01:05:30.023-04:00More Thoughts:
***When Sayid was talking at Shann...<b>More Thoughts:</b><br /><br />***When Sayid was talking at Shannon's funeral about how, if it weren't for the island, they would never even have spoken a word to each other--I kept thinking to myself "oh, but you did" and thinking of Shannon's jerkface episode in the airport when Sayid asked her to watch his bag. :'(<br /><br />***FINALLY someone told Jack to back off in all his "I'm so good and perfect"ness. Not quite the scenario I would have imagined, but still--at least he got a taste of what his attitude looks like to the outside world. I love him, but he needs to lighten up.<br /><br />***My interpretation of the "kiss and run" dealio is thus: Kate kisses men. Kate kisses men often. Kate kissing men usually means she's using them. But she doesn't go after Jack, ever, in that way because she feels he's "too good, too perfect" (Jack interprets this as her not loving him when in fact, it's the opposite). So she, knowing full-well the effect her "womanly woes" have on the men she uses, is horror struck when, in a moment of severe weakness, she plants one on Jack--guilty and horrified at the what she's done, she gives him that "asylum escapee" look and runs for the jungle. And the Jaters lament.<br /><br />***Kate is my idol for beating the CRAP out of that Marshal, I almost feel sorry for him, getting beat to a pulp by a 110 pound Iowa farm girl...almost....<br /><br />***So Sawyer, the answer to the question is apparently "Boxers", not briefs. ;)<br /><br />***I love how, at the end of the episode, Ana Lucia is carving, like, a stake. Hahah! She cracks me up sometimes. It's like Jack with his leaf airplane back in the pilot--it's just something something AL would do. "Everyone hates me--I'll just turn this tree branch into a lethal weapon to drown my sorrows."Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09501756460059866798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-64736706981566314732009-09-03T00:59:09.902-04:002009-09-03T00:59:09.902-04:00Katey, yes on Jin's handcuffs coming off -- I ...Katey, yes on Jin's handcuffs coming off -- I love that scene -- and yes on the video splice -- ok we can't use the computer for anything else...so tell us something we don't already know!! lolSusannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-55890012076613858252009-09-03T00:30:24.756-04:002009-09-03T00:30:24.756-04:00Okay--sorry I'm so late on this one! It sucks ...Okay--sorry I'm so late on this one! It sucks cause this is one of my favorite episodes to analyze buttt, I started school today--first day of senior year and I only got 3 hours of sleep last night because, for some reason, I was freaking out and kept jerking awake, gah, I hate that terrible "night before". Anyway, I came home and crashed and then had to embark on the wonderful "first-day of school" homework load! Calculus! Government! Syllabus signing! Whooh! :|<br /><br />Anyway, that's why I'm late. I'll post all my thoughts that haven't been said first, and then I'll go through and comment on all y'alls. ;)<br /><br /><b>Thoughts:</b><br /><br />*** First off, I LOVE these flashbacks, I loved seeing, at long last what Kate actually did to warrant everything she's been through! In all honesty, when I was watching it the first time, I was extremely surprised in the fact that...it wasn't very surprising. It was kind of easy to guess from the beginning that she'd murdered someone and as it turned out, the story was much less mysterious and much more heart-wrenching than it had been built up to be. I had braced myself to be disillusioned to Kate (who'd been a favorite character up till then) because she'd actually done some heartless, unimaginable thing, but really it made me love her character even more.<br /><br />*** Jin = HOTTEST BOD EVER! :O Dude, that man is just ripped.<br /><br />*** It was especially chilling hearing everyone calling Kate "Katey" and "Katherine" in this episode--I was like "I didn't do anything! I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING!! STOP CALLING MY NAME!" >_><br /><br />***When are we gonna see Alvar Hanso? I know the writers have assured us that we'll get to meet him at some point, I'm excited to see what that means. He's been one of those weird things that you forget about until his name is tossed into the conversation now and then.<br /><br />***There were some great lines in this episode!<br /><br /><b>Sayid:</b>"Why aren't you with him now?"<br /><b>Kate:</b>*blinkblink* "'Cause I'm going crazy."<br /><br />"So Rose's husband's white--didn't see that one coming."<br /><br /><b>Wayne:</b> "what's that smell?"<br /><b>Kate:</b> "probably your breathe"<br /><b>Wayne:</b> "cha' right?" <br /><br />XD<br /><br />***If I were Kate, I would STOP leaning in to unconscious men--that's the second time they've woken up from the near-dead to strangle her. Sheesh. <br /><br />***I think I brought this up a long time ago in Season One, but me and a few people on the abc.com boards had a very in-depth and fascinating discussion about Kate's past and what exactly Wayne did to her. From the opening flashback you can clearly tell that it's common for a drunken Wayne to come on to her in inappropriate ways but--do you think she was ever sexually abused? One of the woman I was talking to on the boards was a psychologist and she validated my observations that Kate's personality, her "need to run", introversion, and refusal to "dig in" along with the glaringly obvious fact that, whenever she doesn't know what to do---she jumps a man and does it, are all signs of a victim of sexual abuse. It really explains why Kate is Kate, but yet she says to the Marshal "he never touched me!"...? That's a lie in itself since Wayne grabbed her several times, not in a sexual way, but not in an appropriate way either... Anyway. I wonder if there isn't more to Kate's story than we've seen. I mentioned this a few episodes ago, but something about her story just seems...disjointed, but purposefully. Like elements of just don't add up quite right...<br /><br />***It was awesome to see Jin free of his handcuff after all this time--and to see how far he and Michael of come (not that that lasts long. :| )<br /><br />***Is it just me, or was anyone else severely disappointed by the Dharma video splice? I was expecting, like, the secrets of the island and all we got was a lousy ten seconds shpeal about not using the computer for chatting. I'm guessing that's coming to come back but at the time I was like "seriously? That's it." And who would cut it up and put it in a bible anyway? It seems unnecessary...Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09501756460059866798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-69321927194739047812009-09-03T00:00:51.929-04:002009-09-03T00:00:51.929-04:00@variabull: Thanks for sharing all the horsey info...@variabull: Thanks for sharing all the horsey info! (Chinese, Roman, etc.) And I hadn't even thought to associate the black horse with death and funerals. I have only childish memories of JFK's funeral and certainly never noticed the riderless black horse. My memories of that time are mostly that it was boring, and that my Saturday morning cartoons were pre-empted.Marebabenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542493291509778907.post-90401612785793049502009-09-02T23:48:47.417-04:002009-09-02T23:48:47.417-04:00@The Question Mark: another link to "Lord of ...@The Question Mark: another link to "Lord of the Flies" is that Golding was concerned with the possibility of a nuclear war following WWII. Most people of the time thought so too. Then it seems fitting the island has its own nuclear bomb, in Jughead. If the writers follow Chekov's maxim, if there is a shotgun over the mantle piece, it has to go off before the end of the play, then I think Jughead has to go off before the end of Season 6.<br /><br />@Variabull: loved all those symbolic meanings of the "black horse." Since you brought up Paulo, I always thought of Nathan as the Tailies' Paulo. Ana-Lucia asks where he is, and he says he was going to the bathroom, just like Paulo in the Pearl.Fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01474623954925835867noreply@blogger.com